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[donbga]

Now that the Revere paper has been officialy relesed early reports from some users indicate there are problems with splotchy spotting.

Has B&S been able to resolve the key issue causing the problem?

I really really want to try this paper but not at the risk of receiving a bad batch.

Thanks,

Don Bryant

[Richard Sullivan -- Moderator]

It's Sun AM and Dana is out but I recall talking to him as he was testing the paper. I will check with him in the morning but I believe he said there were no problems.

--Dick

donbga, on 13 July 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

Now that the Revere paper has been officialy relesed early reports from some users indicate there are problems with splotchy spotting.

Has B&S been able to resolve the key issue causing the problem?

I really really want to try this paper but not at the risk of receiving a bad batch.

Thanks,

Don Bryant

[pschwart]

Richard Sullivan -- Moderator, on 17 July 2011 - 08:15 AM, said:

It's Sun AM and Dana is out but I recall talking to him as he was testing the paper. I will check with him in the morning but I believe he said there were no problems.

--Dick

I'm sure Dana didn't encounter problems else he certainly would have said something, but wider testing shows something is afoot. I am wondering why Magnani is not soliciting samples of the defects for analysis? Everyone really wants this paper to succeed, but we need to know how to make it perform consistently. I still have a pile of COT320 and Platine so I am good for now

[Gary]

Yesterday I made test prints on both the heavy and light weight versions of Revere paper using palladium / Na2 chemistry and both papers exhibited spots and blotchiness. This paper was purchased from Talas back in July, 2011. Using the same chemistry I made perfect prints on Stonehenge paper.

[pschwart]

Tillman Crane showed some beautiful prints made on Revere at APIS earlier this month. The paper seems to be finicky despite being specifically formulated for platinum/palladium.

Gary, on 16 October 2011 - 11:12 AM, said:

Yesterday I made test prints on both the heavy and light weight versions of Revere paper using palladium / Na2 chemistry and both papers exhibited spots and blotchiness. This paper was purchased from Talas back in July, 2011. Using the same chemistry I made perfect prints on Stonehenge paper.

[retrofoto]

I have read, as mentioned here, that there are some issues with the Revere paper, but that it also makes beautiful Pt/Pd prints. I have ordered 50 papers from B&S, and I am curious to know if others have any experience with the paper for Ziatype, since that is what I intend to print.

Thank you.

Bjorn

(my blog about alternative processes: www.retrofoto.dk)

[pschwart]

I encountered the sames issues with dark spots and blotchy sizing making ziatypes.

retrofoto, on 28 October 2011 - 01:18 PM, said:

I have read, as mentioned here, that there are some issues with the Revere paper, but that it also makes beautiful Pt/Pd prints. I have ordered 50 papers from B&S, and I am curious to know if others have any experience with the paper for Ziatype, since that is what I intend to print.

Thank you.

Bjorn

(my blog about alternative processes: www.retrofoto.dk)

[retrofoto]

So you experienced those dark spots and blotchy sizing? What about other features when Ziatyping? How does the revere paper perform for ziatype?

[pschwart]

dmax was also slightly less than I achieve with other papers, but I quit using it mostly because of the blotchy sizing. Maybe I will retest the paper some time in the future.

retrofoto, on 28 October 2011 - 11:09 PM, said:

So you experienced those dark spots and blotchy sizing? What about other features when Ziatyping? How does the revere paper perform for ziatype?

[retrofoto]

Hm. As already said I have orderedit. Hopefully it will work for me. I was aware of the blotches, but the reduced Dmax is not something I had heard of, since I didn't know of any Ziatype printers using this paper. I hope it is not too bad...

[pschwart]

dmax was about 1.4 so not bad.

retrofoto, on 29 October 2011 - 06:52 AM, said:

Hm. As already said I have orderedit. Hopefully it will work for me. I was aware of the blotches, but the reduced Dmax is not something I had heard of, since I didn't know of any Ziatype printers using this paper. I hope it is not too bad...

[retrofoto]

A question about dmax. How do you measure it? What would the dmax for a platinotype be on the revere? It is a logarithmic scale, right?

[pschwart]

I measure my step tablets with an Xrite reflection densitometer. I already said I got log 1.4 using palladium on Revere. This is going to depend on a lot of variables, so you will need to do your own testing.. I might have been able to get this higher but I didn't spend the time after encountering the blotchiness.

retrofoto, on 29 October 2011 - 10:46 AM, said:

A question about dmax. How do you measure it? What would the dmax for a platinotype be on the revere? It is a logarithmic scale, right?

[retrofoto]

I received a batch of Revere Platinum papers today and made some Ziatypes right away. Beautiful paper is all I can say. I didn't see any of those blotches. Works fine for me. I love the surface of it too..

[platinumb]

This paper works well, I have used the heavyweight and the lightweight and really good tonalities throughout with a very convincing black. It seems to like being brushed better than rod coating and humidify the paper well before coating, and coat very heavily. Clearing with 50/50 EDTA/KODAK HYPO CLEAR was very quick (5min) but leave in in for 10.
I rate it on par with COT 320 at a lot less $.

[snewbery]

I'm working with ambient humidity that varies from 40--55%, double coating with brush on lightweight paper and getting good prints---nice blacks, fantastic mid-tones & highlights. No splotching. This was true of both palladium alone and pt-pd 50/50. A beautiful surface.

[Doug Schwab]

I have made a number of develop out palladium prints on Revere light weight and have gotten very good results. I first pre-coated the paper with 1.5% oxalic acid plus 5 % glycerin solution. When dry, I brush coated once. let it rest 5 minutes and used a hair dryer on cool until the surface seemed just dry enough. Potassium oxalate at 105º yielded a nice warm image with deep blacks.